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Oh Yes We Can Prevent a Big 5 Ban

In the mid-90’s I bred Burmese pythons.  They were some of the most gentle and tolerant snakes I have ever kept and working with them was one of the most rewarding experiences I have had as a reptile breeder.  Some life changes necessitated that I stop breeding them and space issues keep me from beginning again.  But I miss them.  I want to put another big group of Burmese pythons together and start breeding them again.  Four things give me pause:

  1. Food: Finding a consistent local supply of affordable food has been problematic in the past.  This is the least of my concerns and can be overcome, I’m sure.
  2. Space & Caging: Do I need to elaborate on the logistics of housing 30-50 large constrictors?  While do-able, it’s not trivial.
  3. City ordinance: The city I live in requires all reptiles over 8 feet to have a permit.  I don’t mind paying the permit fee but I do mind being on the radar of local officials.  I feel like it makes me a target.  “Hey, this guy has 40 Burmese pythons.  He needs a visit.”
    I should avoid complaining on this point, though.  At least the city I live in hasn’t banned them completely.
  4. The current national political climate hell-bent on banning large constrictors: If I put together a large breeding group now will I find them banned and worthless some time in the next few years?

At the risk of becoming a pariah I suggest that the writing is on the wall for the so-called Big 5 Constrictors.  I fear they will be banned some time in the next few years.  I also fear it will be our (e.g. the reptile community) own fault when it happens.  As a quick review for those who don’t already know, the Big Five include:

  1. Reticulated Pythons
  2. Anacondas
  3. Burmese Pythons
  4. African Rock Pythons
  5. Australian Scrub Pythons

We have a chance to stop the ban but the reptile community is currently broken into two distinct groups.  While both groups have the same general objective of allowing for continued ownership of large constrictors (and other reptiles) they differ quite on a bit on their approach.  I suggest you can call the two groups Team USARK and Team PIJAC.  I know I am going to be accused of perpetuating the divide by laying it out this way but this is how I see it.  It is my perception (and you now what they say about the link between perception and reality).

Everything I have seen, read and heard seems to indicate that PIJAC supports the responsible implementation of regulatory controls that will allow continued ownership of large constrictors while USARK does not support any controls, in any form.  As individuals we align with the side that best fits our own personal desires.  That division has and will drive the efforts of both groups in two different directions that ultimately do not complement each other.  That separation may lead to neither group achieving its objective and the third, less desirable result, a complete ban, may prevail in their stead.

The non-big-5-owning portion of the reptile community (ball python breeders, in particular) is often accused of being willing to throw the 5 under the bus to quiet the voices of people wishing to ban snake ownership.  And large constrictors are such an easy target, are they not?  Burmese pythons garner most of the public spotlight because of the Florida Everglades situation and I can’t conjure a story of someone being seriously injured or killed by a ball python or any of the other smaller python species.  It’s always one the five (usually a burm or a retic)  that makes the news.  And they are the one’s profiled on the Discovery Channel, History Channel and other so-called ‘knowledge’ channels.  As a ball python breeder (and former Burmese python breeder) let me be extremely clear on this point:  a federal ban on the Big 5 will not stop the people who want to put your right to own snakes and other reptiles to an end.  Sure, a ban on the Five may quiet them down for a bit but I promise you they will be back, emboldened by their success, to finish the job and ban the rest of the python species.  Their goal is not to ban large constrictors; they want to ban all reptiles.  So if you are a ball python, carpet python or any other kind of python breeder, stop thinking that a ban on the Five will end the political opposition to reptile ownership. It won’t.  It will strengthen it!  All you need to do is look at Senate bill S.373 for evidence of this.  Regardless of size of python being bred, we need to be united and consistent in our opposition to legislation.  This includes a united approach for the future of reptile ownership.

Having said that I fear that rigid and uncompromising opposition to any legislation will result in long-term failure and the Five will be banned at a federal level.  Not long after the Big 5 get banned, many if not all, of the other python species will follow.  Supporters of these bills are sneaky and vigilant.  They use misinformation and fear to further their objectives and given enough time they are likely to be successful in convincing others who don’t care to take the time to find the truth.  Please understand that people do not intentionally form opinions they know to be wrong.  Many rely on seemingly valid sources of information, like the USGS and the University of Florida, to help them form their opinions.  Each person believes what they do for a reason and they often define themselves by what they believe.  In order to maintain their opinions they have to find evidence that supports them.  This fact lets us understand that people who want to prove their opinion will conjur results necessary to validate their perspective.  Consider this publication on the invasion of Burmese Pythons from the Univerity of Florida.  When quoted by the media, academic publications are often presented as lore to the general public.  If you read the article referenced above you will find that it is not short on bias against the large constrictors (and pet owners).  Rather than being an objective academic analysis of the status of the Burmese Python in the Florida Everglades it is a position piece cleverly set up to be ammunition for future citations and political rhetoric.  It is designed to support an opinion and it is seeded with some facts to bolster its credibility.  Who is going to argue with Congressman so-and-so when he is quoting ‘facts’ published as part of a study conducted by the University of Florida?  I hope you see the power in this type of misinformation.  The public will never question these sources, much less read them.

Rigid resistance to any and all legislation may result in complete legislation.  Our best chance for success is to find middle ground.  We need to quell the voices of opposition while maintaining our rights to own and breed snakes of our choosing.  To do this I suggest that the Big Five owners and breeders should not be thrown under the bus …but they may have to get their toes run over by it.  I’m not saying this because they deserve it.  It’s a simple truth that these constrictors get the lions share of attention from people on the outside looking in.  Starting anywhere other than with the Five will likely be viewed as a token offering.

But what do I mean by ‘getting their toes run over’?  Simple, really.  Owners and breeders of large constrictors will have to forego some of the freedoms enjoyed by breeders of smaller snakes.  To avoid sugar-coating it, breeding and ownership of large constrictors will be regulated.  The question is not ‘if they will be regulated’, it is ‘to what extend will they be regulated’.  There are two central issues that legislation will attempt to address:  invasive species and public health and safety.  The ability for large constrictors to invade other regions of the country is hotly debated.

Invasive Species

Nobody seems to dispute the presence of Burmese pythons in the Florida Everglades.  A few sensational (and very over-used) pictures (1) (2) have been released and more than one article/TV show has tried to portray an epic battle taking place for top-of-the-food-chain status between the American alligator and the Burmese python.  It makes for great TV but that’s about it.  The Burmese pythons, along with many, many other plants and animals have made their way into the Florida Everglades and found conditions conducive to their survival.  Over the past decade about 1,000 pythons have been captured in the southern-most portions of the Everglades.  Despite wild reports suggesting otherwise, there is no evidence to prove that they are moving north.  Burmese pythons do not have the ability to survive long-term in the colder parts of the United States, including northern Florida.

Education is our best defense against people who use fear of python invasion as justification for a ban.  We need to educate the people about the reality of python survivability in temperate regions.  Once people who vote on our behalf understand that invasion beyond the Florida Everglades is all but impossible we will have done serious damage to this argument.

Public Health & Safety

The spread of non-native ticks (addressed by the National Reptile Improvement Plan, NRIP) and the ability for large constrictors to severely injure or even kill humans are points of concern (the former is a concern for all imported reptiles).  Death of humans because of large constrictors is incredibly rare.  My research indicates that 11 people have been killed by large constrictors in the past 29 years.  But when it happens it is sensational.  The news and other media outlets seize upon it and milk the stories for all they are worth.  The damage to the image of herpetoculturists is disproportionate and long-lasting.  I’m willing to bet that more than 11 people have died from choking on pen tops in the past 29 years but pen tops, which exist in every home, do not have a lobby against them because of their danger to public safety.  To say that large constrictors pose an imminent risk to humans is just plain silly but when you watch TV they make it seem like there is a python in your back yard, stalking you.  The truth does not stir people, nor does it sell ad space.  The media lies to make the facts more interesting.

Sizable portions of our population are afraid of all snakes (I know a woman who paid $350 to have a 6″ ringneck snake removed from her back yard).  That fear is amplified when the snakes are large.  That fears transcends into hysteria when the snake is one of the Big 5.  Hysteria and fear are not mindsets that allow for rational discussion.  As irrational as the fear is to members of the reptile community, it is real to the people who experience it and they are not likely to be swayed by us telling them everything is all right.

So how do you fight against a largely baseless agrument that is supported by fear, sensational media coverage, irresponsible academics and abusive extrapolations by supposedly legitimate scientific organizations?  Education is the most important tool but it is a long term approach.  Let’s compare the fear of snakes to something like racism.  Racism, like fear of snakes, is a learned behavior.  It takes time to eliminate it and education is one of the key tools.  Eliminating fear of reptiles has to start early in life.  My two year old daughter is not afraid of snakes.  How could she be?  But the other day she told me she was scared the snake was going to bite her.  I later learned she got the idea from another child at school whose parents are deathly afraid of snakes.  How to address it?  Well, I started with my daughter.  Being afraid of snakes in this family isn’t going to work out so she and I spent some time with the snakes so she knows they won’t hurt her.  Next in line is my daughter’s school.  My wife is in the process of arranging a ‘show and tell’ day where I will take some snakes (and other reptiles) in and teach the kids that, while worthy of respect, they are not dangerous.  Every person in the reptile community needs to be a reptile evangelist, working to dispel fear and misunderstanding whenever and wherever we can.  But grassroots efforts (which have been going on for years) will not suffice.  There needs to be a national campaign, supported by entire reptile community, to begin to eradicate fear of snakes.

Education is a strategic aim.  We need a more tactical approach to deal with our immediate problem; a proposed ban on pythons.  Education won’t do us much good if we lose our right to own reptiles in the next few years.  It is likely that legislation in some form is a foregone conclusion.  We will do ourselves a favor to come to the table with something other than blanket opposition.  Here is what I propose:

  • Implement a national permit system for large constrictor ownership.  Permits will be per individual/business, not per animal.  There will be an annual fee.  These fees must be realistic and not serve to exclude the average person from ownership (because of high prices).  For example, 200,000 large constrictor owners paying $15/year will generate $3 million in annual revenue.
  • Require owners of large constrictors to attend an 8-hour certification class that teaches basic husbandry techniques, safe handling, escape-resistant caging, basic medical response (e.g. what to do if you get bit), etc.  Successful completion of the course is required for permit approval.  Enrollment in the course will be fee-based with a portion of the fees used to provide reptile education around the country.
    • This course could be offered as a single Saturday event (9-5) or two hours/night for four weeks.
    • Large constrictor owners could also be required to renew their certification every 5 years by attending a 1/2 day refresher course.  This will provide an opportunity to make sure all owners of large constrictors are up-to-date on any new developments in husbandry as well as the status of any regulations.  This also provides another revenue stream, complementing the annual permit fee.
  • Reptile owners, not reptile sellers /breeders, are responsible for obtaining a permit and certification prior to the animal reaching 8 feet in length.  The breeder/seller of the reptile is required to notify the buyer of the requirement for a permit and certifiation but is not required to maintain records on who the animals were sold to and and what their permit status is.  This requirement falls to the reptile owner and the national reptile permit system administrators.
    • This may be a sticking point.  I think it’s important to avoid burdening reptile breeders/resellers with extra tracking and paperwork.  But large constrictors disappearing into the community with no trail to show where they have gone is likely going to cause a lot of buyers to simply not get a permit or attend the course.  The recourse to this is that there has to be a stiff penalty for failure to register and take the required certification class.  This may take the form of a fine, seizure of the animal(s) and a suspension period, during which time the offender is prohibited from owning a large constrictor.
    • I am not an advocate of microchipping.  Pet owners being labeled as the cause of the problem in the Florida Everglades is an unfounded accusation.  Natural disasters such as Hurrican Andrew are more likely suspects for the unintentional release of reptiles into the wild.  Escaped constrictors are not a problem outside the Florida Everlgades so the only thing mandatory microchipping will do is increase the total cost of ownership (TCO) and the money spent on building, administering and maintaining a tracking database will outweigh any potential benefits.  Microchipping also inhibits the free trade of reptiles.  Ownership of many animals changes frequently and quickly.  I can cite many instances where an animal changed ownership four (4) times in a single day.  Keeping up with microchip registrations will be burdensome without benefit.
  • Stiff penalties must be put in place for anyone caught intentionally releasing a non-native species into the wild.  Most states already have something like this but the consequences need to be undesireable enough to cause people to want to find a different solution for getting rid of their animals.

I want a world where reptile ownership is unrestricted and unregulated.  I don’t want any national permit system nor do I want to have to pay an annual fee or take a course for the right to own a reptile of my choosing.  But that is increasingly not the reality.  I would much rather endure a little bit of paperwork, pay a small fee and attend a class every few years than have my rights taken away completely.  I fear that an unwillingness to budge by the reptile community will cause the total loss of our rights.  It’s not fair and the fears of others are not based on reality but they don’t have to be in order for a law to get passed.  It’s time we took the initiative and put processes into place that ensure our right to own large constrictors.  And as soon as we do that I will start building my group of Burmese again, safe that I can breed them and be able to legally sell the animals.


Colin Weaver


  1. Bobby Jenkins June 8, 2009


    VERY WELL WRITTEN! I’ll be printing this out to use at our events theis year.
    Speaking of breeding burms, I have a question. My big burm has refused his rabbit in April, May and now June. Should I be alarmed? Are their some tricks I’m not aware of? His cage temps are 83 warm side to 79 cool side. He just shedded last week as well.
    Thanks again…….


    Oh, club meeting is this coming Saturday 2:00pm. 1804 Winter Wheat Court Va Beach 23453

  2. troy July 7, 2009

    No offense bro but here we go again with folks owning one of the big 5 with proper knowledge of husbandry you really need to sit down and read and learn as much as you can about these snakes before buying one the hot side is supposed to be at 92 degrees and cool side around 84 with humidity at 50 to 60% no higher or lower if you need a good care sheet visit darksidereptiles.com they have a burmese python care sheet in the burmese python section good luck and keep reading please! Good job on this thread you put out some good point I’m one of 450 people in the state of fl who are legally aloud to poccess the big 5 and already have to do erandom inspections its not fun but its worth all the bullshit to keep my burms and retics again good jobs

  3. Tony S. July 8, 2009

    A Burmese python infestation and threat to the ecosystem of Everglades National Park is enough. The death of one innocent girl is enough. A few stupid herp-wannabe’s is enough. As a reptile lover myself, I feel owning any one of these “Big 5” snakes should be federally banned and I fully support Bill Nelson’s bill. Burmese pythons, Retics, and anacondas are major predators. If you’re allowed to own one of these dangerous repties, you should be equally allowed to own a lion, a tiger, a grizzly bear, or a saltwater crocodile. Not!

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    Colin Weaver July 8, 2009

    Tony, I sure am glad you are in the minority. A federal ban because of the Florida Everglades? And because of one little girl? Really? Should we federally ban every single species of plant and animal that is in the Everglades that shouldn’t be there? I don’t think you’d like the result of that. What happened to that little girl last week is absolutely horrific. I have a 2-year old daughter and I can safely say that I would be forever ruined as a human being if something like that happened in my home. I cannot express how sad I am for that little girl and her family. But I will not buy in to letting her death be a rallying cry for banning the ownership of large constrictors to responsible people around this country. And you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to use her death as a weapon.

    My daughter momentarily choked on a small piece of strawberry at pre-school the other day. Had there not been responsible people on site who were trained how to respond she could have become another statistic; a child death due to choking. Because of her incident should we ban strawberrys in your home? Should I be screaming for a ban on strawberry’s at the federal level? They are a choking hazard and are a danger to our children, aren’t they? Banning things at a federal level because of isolated problems or INCREDIBLY rare events is a silly and over-reactive position to take.

    If you’re a reptile lover, what kind of reptiles do you keep? How would you feel if someone tried to ban your particular choice of exotic? It’s all so easy to say until it impacts you.

  5. Ashley B. March 15, 2010

    I am a supporter of the ban & a reptile lover. I have seen far too many irresponsible snake owners, unfortunately sellers do not have to do background checks on who buys the animals. Because of that a lot of people who should never own one, end up with these creatures who can be very dangerous in homes and in natural environments. While a lot of snakes escaped during natural disasters, this does not forgive the ones set free by people who realize they cannot care for a 10 foot snake. However they get free it all means the same thing. Large creatures that are changing the face of the everglades.

    I hope this ban gets passed.

    and yes, I fully expect all the haters to jump on me. Come on, doesn’t bother me. Go live with your animals in Burma, where they belong.

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    Colin Weaver March 15, 2010


    Yeah, you’re right. And we should ban cars because not everybody is a responsible driver. And we should ban alcohol because not every uses it wisely. And we should ban marriage because not all of them work out. Heck, we should ban movie theaters because some people talk during the film. The list of things we should ban because some people don’t exercise the appropriate level responsibility and control is never ending. By the time people who think the way you do are done there won’t be anything left. Rather than holding individuals accountable we should punish everybody. I’m going to take a wild guess and say that you’re a Democrat…

    Your argument fails to realize that the number of responsible pet owners far outweighs the number of irresponsible ones. It is unfortunate that you fail to see that. I certainly hope you don’t own a dog from some other country. We’ll have to ship you and your pet back to your dog’s country of origin in order to comply with your logic. I know a few people who will chip in for your airfare.

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